The Thai Noodle Tease
My friend Katina is a tease.
I know this may sound harsh, but I assure you the accusation is not levied lightly. My compliments I may be loose with, but not my criticism. Katina’s status as a tease is well earned and fully documented.
To talk to Katina is to be tantalized and tempted, enticed by grand plans and great ideas. She is a writer, after all, and her powers of description are impressive. There are amazing restaurants you simply must try, she’ll go with you. Certain dishes that must be ordered, she knows them. There are fun things to do—rollerblading on the Embarcadero, a weekend reunion in Seattle, camping in Joshua Tree. It will happen, it will be fantastic; you can’t help but get excited.
Then Katina tells you she’s booked solid for the next six months.
To be fair, Katina is a grad school friend. In the past two years since we finished our program, we've all been trying to find our feet. Trying to find time for our writing, now that we no longer have deadlines to make us do so; trying to stay connected to school friends, now that we no longer see each other every week in class, and for post-class drinking sessions at The Alley, Cato's, The Kerry House. We try to squeeze in lunches and dinners, shoehorning them in around jobs, writing, busy lives.
Last summer I managed to catch up with Katina for a dinner at Osha, one of her favorite Thai restaurants. She raved about a certain item on the menu—a dish of pan-fried noodles mixed with broccoli and chicken. It was savory and slightly sweet and very delicious. I can’t remember what I ordered that night, but it was not nearly as good as Katina’s noodles. She says she craves these noodles on a weekly basis, and she was delighted that I liked the place. Her husband doesn't like Osha nearly as much as she does, so she’s always on the lookout for an Osha buddy. We’ll go often, she promised, it will be great.
That was nine months ago.
Now Katina and I are both pretty busy, but after six months and a couple of attempts at coordinating a return visit I gave up. When a group of friends wanted to go to Osha for lunch I agreed, even though it felt like treading on Katina’s sacred territory. It wasn’t like she hadn’t been given chances. And those noodles with broccoli are addictive, I had been thinking about them for months. When we got there I barely looked at the menu, I knew exactly what I wanted. I couldn’t wait for our meal to arrive, I could practically taste the noodles. I sat up straight in my chair when our waiter brought the order, flush with anticipation. Then my face fell.
I had ordered the wrong thing.
Believe it or not, there are two broccoli and noodle dishes on the Osha menu. Instead of soft but ever so slightly browned noodles with chicken and crunchy green broccoli, moist and delicious, I got noodles and broccoli with chicken in a heavy gravy—almost a soup (Laht Nah). It's not that it was bad—my friend Liam quite liked it—it just wasn't the dish I had been waiting months and months to taste.
Shortly after that I emailed Katina and confessed the whole debacle. I said it was my penance for going to Osha without her. And by the way, I asked, what was the name of that broccoli dish?
She wouldn’t tell me. She said we’d go together, soon.
Not only that, she wouldn’t let our friend Seren tell me either.
And then she was out of town every weekend for another three months.
But last Friday the jig was up. Katina, Seren, and I had dinner at Osha and she confessed that the addictive mystery dish was actually Pad See You. Was this act of largess on her behalf motivated by the fact that I had, just the week before, pointed her in the direction of the best mango and sticky rice she has ever tasted? (you see, I am not stingy with my dining recommendations). I don’t know, but that night we had delicious noodles with broccoli, spring rolls, and a lovely pumpkin curry. And Katina told us about this amazing new restaurant that we really must try; she’ll go with us. It’ll be great.
Seren and I are looking forward to it, sometime next September.
Until then, I’m eating noodles and broccoli. You can too.
PAD SEE YOU or PAD SEE EUW
After our dinner I was on a mission to recreate this dish. I found a couple of recipes and began cooking. Two attempts and one repeat visit back to Osha later, I’ve fooled around enough to come up with a version that makes me happy. Is it as good as Osha’s noodles? I think it may be—we'll see what Katina says. Somehow I think she'll find the time for this one.
My rather slapdash research says that see euw (various other forms of spelling) is the word for soy sauce, so this dish would be noodles with soy sauce (oh, but it is so much more). I don’t know how authentic this one is, and I’m a little frightened that Pim might pop up to tell me that I have it all wrong. I started with recipes I found online, but ultimately I improvised as some of the recipes I found were awful. I don't know how this would compare to Pad See Euw in Thailand. I've been to Thailand several times, but this is not a dish I've ever tasted there. I do know, however, that it is good.
This recipe took me to an Asian specialty store for some ingredients I didn’t have on hand—dark soy sauce (thicker and a bit sweeter than what I think of as “regular” soy sauce); oyster sauce; Chinese rice wine (not mirin); fresh rice noodles; Chinese broccoli.
For the marinade:
8 oz. chicken, bone and skin removed and cut into medium cubes (you could also use beef, pork, or tofu)
2 cloves garlic, minced or mashed through a garlic press
2 tbs rice wine
2 tbs oyster sauce (nam mun hoi)
1 1/2 tsp sugar (palm sugar would be traditional, I used white sugar)
1 pinch crushed red pepper flakes—more if you like the heat
For the noodles:
1 tbs oil
8 oz wide rice noodles, preferably fresh (sen yai)*
1 egg
1 tbs dark soy sauce, plus a dash (see euw)
1 tsp oyster sauce (nam mun hoi)
1 tsp fish sauce, plus a dash (nam pla)
1 1/4 to 1 1/2 tsp sugar
2 1/2 cups Chinese broccoli (ka na), stems and leaves cut into one-inch pieces/ribbons
Mix the garlic, rice wine, oyster sauce, sugar, and red pepper flakes. Add the chicken and let sit, covered, for a few hours.
Scramble the egg in a bowl, adding a dash (about three drops) of both soy sauce and fish sauce to the raw egg. Mix.
In another small bowl, mix the sauce for the noodles—adding the dark soy sauce, the oyster and fish sauce, and the sugar (I used 1 1/4 tsp, if you like it sweet you could go up to 1 1/2 tsp). Stir thoroughly, as the sugar will drop to the bottom, and set aside.
In a large pan or wok, add the oil and sauté the chicken at high heat. Don’t pour the chicken and marinade into the pan, rather take each piece out and add it to the pan. You want a slight crust and color on the chicken, so keep the heat high and stir as needed.
When the chicken is cooked through, move it to the side of the pan. Pour the egg into the remaining area and scramble, making sure not to stir the chicken into the egg (you don’t want the chicken coated in egg). You could remove the chicken if your pan is not large enough. When the egg is scrambled and cooked through, use your spoon or spatula to break it into smallish pieces.
Mix the egg and chicken and begin adding the noodles, one third of the noodles at a time. After each noodle addition, drizzle on some of the sauce (stir it first as the sugar will settle) and mix with the chicken. You might want to turn down the heat at this point. Add more noodles, drizzle on sauce, mix. Taste it to make sure you have the depth of flavor you want—you may prefer not to use all the sauce. Add the broccoli and stir to incorporate. When the broccoli leaves have wilted, remove from heat and serve immediately. Makes two portions.
*A note on rice noodles: I had never used fresh rice noodles before. If you can get your hands on them they really make this dish. They were soft the first day I bought them but hardened in the fridge over the next two days. A minute or so in the microwave restored them to their original soft texture. I do believe I am a convert. Of course, if you can't find them I would go with dry rice noodles, as wide as you can get them.
For Bay Area locals who want their Pad See Euw made for them:
OSHA THAI
Three locations:
819 Valencia Street (Katina prefers the noodles at this location)
149 2nd Street (recently opened and noisy at dinner, make reservations)
696 Geary Street (the food and ambiance are not as polished here)

20 comments:
My SO doesn't like noodles (I know, it's almost adeal breaker!) Good thing he'll be out of town this weekend so I can make these noodles and eat them all myself!
Tea - I think you answered my questions before I had a chance to ask it! I had made a dish (from Hot, Sour, Salty, Sweet) with the same noodles, and I had a heck of a time getting them seperated appropriately. I tried soaking in warm water and gently working them... but it hadn't occured to me to pop them in the microwave... I will definitely have to give that a try.
Fantastic story, as always!
Oh, revenge is sweet, isn't it? You have fully broken the power that Osha held over you by making the pad see you your own. The embargo was worth it for the fun of being there when you tasted it again after such long anticipation!
And past experience aside, I'm telling you, our monthly Thai night with K. will happen! Maybe annually, but it will happen!
I'm SO jealous! You know I would've gone with you if I still lived there! :(
Where did you find the best mango & sticky rice? I've been jonesing for it lately!
You got me alright! But you know you love my teasing... :) Hilarious, and I can't wait to hear more about your own creation.
BTW, I just found this great new restaurant that you will love and we have to go b/c it will be so wonderful....oops, got to run!
Lee-doesn't like noodles? I guess that just means more for you.
L--Thanks. Yes, I believe the microwave is the traditional method of softening rice noodles, handed down from ancient times:-). It does the job--but watch out not to burn your fingertips. They come out piping hot.
Seren--I think you're getting off far too lightly for your part in said embargo. You might want to watch your back. And I think we just need to plan Thai night ourselves. We both know K won't be able to stay away.
MMl--If you still lived here you would have managed to make K fall into line long ago. See, we really need you out here!
Anonymous--You want me to give up the goods on the best M&SR but you won't even tell us your name? :-)
If you're in the Bay Area, I think the best M&SR is at Sunday brunch at the Thai Temple in Berkeley (info in the latest Bargain Bites roundup in the Chron). Be warned, though, they sometimes sell out.
Pari--Oh but that just made me laugh!
I love your teasing and your restaurant recommendations. And certainly your company is always worth the wait. Thanks for being a sport--I'll see sometime next fall, I'm sure the food will be excellent.
PS. Seren pointed out that I should have mentioned your abandoned blog as yet another Katina tease. Get on with it, girl. We're waiting!:-)
Happily, I live not too far from Chinatown, so I shouldn't have any trouble finding the ingredients ... because, of course, I have to try this dish! Tea, it sounds and looks delicious!
Pad See Euw is my favorite! You could have been having at iat every thai place you've been to during the nine months...it's a very popular dish. Mmmm. Looks beautiful. =)
Another great post, T!
It's always a very difficult choice for me, whem I find myself at a noodle joint in Bangkok ... pad siew or laad naa. Many folks find the latter bland and boring, but the trick is to make use of the dried chili, fish sauce vinegar-soaked fresh chilies, and white pepper on the table to spice it up.
The laad naa recipe in Hot Sour Salty Sweet it quite good, if you want to give it another chance. But you gotta have those condiments!
I am impressed with your resourcefulness in creating this treat for yourself. Sorry that your friend is being a tease. On the other hand, the recipe still makes my mouth water.
those flat noodles are great. never seen them sold like that before. ill look closer next time.
I love it! Great post, Tea. And the recipe looks enticing and most flavourful. I love the way you write and the way you present recipes. Wonderful!
I dearly love pad see euw...never thought of trying to make it myself! Thanks for a great read.
alright, babe. you've now officially made it to the very short list of my browser toolbar. i now read you more than the onion. more than the ny times for crissakes. you are much too fun and too darned much like myself to ignore. excpt that you cook and i'm hard pressed to remember where the grocery store is these days. but it's still an absolute joy to hang out in your kitchen - virtual or otherwise. thanks for sharing yourself.
So really is is You who is the tease!
You don't even invite new friends over for this brave & delicious dinner!
looks great. maybe we can go next time i make it out there. miss you.
Tea- I miss you! Head on over to Chocolate and Zucchini-- she's bragging about a certain shiny new kitchen appliance.
Tea, you have my sympathies, and I admire your efforts to reproduce this dish on your own.
I'm from Toronto, and there's a Thai restaurant here, Salad King, that serves a noodle dish I would give my left, er, let's say arm, to know. Thing is, I'm kind of afraid to try.
Anyways, I'm very glad I found your blog. You write with a wonderful voice.
wow pad see ew success thanks for lunch for me and the kids
daddys day in...
cheers
D
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